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  The Label Of "Apostate" And It's Effects

  by pale.emperor in

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  in my psychology studies we've been examining the use of "labels" and how they influence peoples behaviour.

  i sometimes wonder if the gb or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation.. it's been observed that by labeling someone or something it changes your entire perception of that person or thing.

  it colours it entirely, quite unfairly in some cases.

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  Quote from Sir 82:

  My opinion (valuable or valueless as it might be) is that the GB have not studied psychology. They are, for the most part, nitwits.

  JWs are far from the only group who use labeling to vilify their opposers. In fact, I'd say it is a hallmark of virtually any high-control group.

  I think it just sort of comes "organically". Leaders of high-control groups tend to have similar psychological & emotional profiles - that sort of person is "drawn" toward trying to control the thoughts & actions of others. I.e., such people tend to join, then "float" to the top of, such organizations.

  The methods for exercising control, including pejorative labeling of opposers, is something that "just happens naturally" - there is a path that virtually every such person or group stumbles across, that works for them.

  I agree. By some process the WTBorg Cult Inc. has imported the controlling tactics of numerous other cults. They may not understand the psychology behind the workings of such tactics but they certainly observe the results which apparently they find "very pleasing." Coupled with the truth that "Power Corrupts" as witnessed by the decades long efforts of The Cult to increase their power over the minds and bodies of their enslaved followers.

  I really love being an Apostate.
  
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  Life during the 1,000 reign???

  by Joliette in

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  me and my brother recently got into a discussion about the 1,000 reign.

  i told him that even after armageddon, you know that you still have to work for your salvation??

  he says yes, that he is prepared to work for jehovah (wth), and that it will be a wonderful time.

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  Since it is prophecy within The Book it is going to happen. Even those who do not believe will be there to experience what it will be all about. The WTBorg Cult Inc. version of how it's going to go down is far from Truth. ALL will experience the wonders of resurrection and rehabilitation. That is the PLAN.

  Every man, woman and child (including aborted fetuses) who has lived in even the very distant past will be raised to life and healed. Then it will be possible to believe and to comprehend the Love of our Creator. For many it will be difficult because of their hardened hearts but the Love of Our Father will prevail and ALL will be made whole in goodness. That is the promise.
  
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  Does the younger generation have our work ethic?

  by compound complex in

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  greetings, you hard workers:.

  i've had enough of speaking in generalities during my time as a jw evangelizer.

  while my own experience will offer up mere anecdotal examples at best, my contemporaries and i have found that kids today lack the earnestness and drive we older folks have had since youth: setting up a lemonade stand; doing yard work without power assist; mopping floors; running errands for a dime; cleaning parking lots, etc.

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  Quote from WT Wizard:

  And trying to start up something useful is going to be met with the strong arm of the law, controlled by the big companies. So, they react to slavery by not showing up or by doing a lousy job for their masters.

  There is some truth there. Our modern society has become one of indoctrination with emphasis on compliance/obedience. When one is in compliance/obedience with the demands of our "lawmakers" then one may enjoy some small amount of "freedom." "The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave" is long gone. Perhaps it never really existed.

  There is considerably more freedom in most of the Asian countries than in the U.S. of A.
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  Apostate is an easy excuse

  by Formerbrother in

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  it seems to me that if there is something that any jw doesnt want anybody to look into, then they can just say the one word apostate, and nobody wil look at it.. this is rather convenient.. what if it is the truth, still dont even look at it to find out?.

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  Quote from Desirous of Change:

  I'll stand by my statement that in my time in the Borg, it has really undergone some radical changes. But then, I'm looking back on decades (in fact, at this point in life, I don't even buy green bananas), as opposed to any changes in just the past several years.

  Agreed! I joined the witnesses back in 1957 and how the Borg have changed since then is nothing short of unbelievable! Not for the better in any way.
  
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  Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  most jws don't see this as a problem.

  they reason that.

  just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.

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  The "victim" is a witness to the crime. The Perpetrator is a witness to the crime.

  Where in The Book does it say that the "witnesses" must be external to the crime?

  Why should the Perpetrator enjoy a man-made advantage?
  
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  Lloyd Evans' New Book - Is It Really Necessary?

  by pale.emperor in

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  so lloyd evans will shortly be releasing his new book how to leave the jehovah's witnesses.

  i do enjoy his rebuttals and the stuff he manages to get hold of and leak.

  but i'm struggling to understand what he could possibly write to merit a whole book.. all info on how to leave is right here on this forum.

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  In answer to the opening question: Yes, we do!

  We need as much variety and diversity as possible in the stories and accounts of personal experiences with the WTBorg Cult Inc. as is humanly possible. The more the better in order to reach as many as possible with TTATT. Something for the individual tastes of the whole crowd so that none are left out.
  
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  real curry recipe?

  by carla in

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  many of you here from other countries talk about going out for curry, can i replicate this at home?

  anyone have a good recipe?

  so would appreciate an authentic recipe for it.

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  I got hooked on Curry Rice while in Japan for several years. Today when I wish to prepare Curry I go to the local Japanese Market and buy an 8.4 oz. (240 g.) box of S&B Golden Curry which is offered in several degrees of "hotness" or spiciness. I prefer "Mild." According to the directions brown your meat of choice in a pan with oil or butter, add diced onions to saute then throw it into a pot with your diced potatoes, carrots, water and any other ingredients you desire and add the curry paste. Simmer and stir until its (the Curry paste) all melted and smooth and the veggies are fully cooked then enjoy.

  I've tried Thai Curry at a local restaurant which is prepared with Coconut Milk and that is tasty too. Frankly, I prefer the Japanese style.

  Curry is one of those magical foods that just hits the spot that others aren't able to.
  
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  Helpless and Very Sad Grandmother

  by Brenda Cook in

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  i am the grandmother of the runaway 18year old girl who is now living with her 22 year old idiot.

  this person has totally brainwashed my granddaughter and is continuing to separate her from our family.

  i feel so helpless that there is nothing we can do to make her see this - no money, no identity, and a servant to him and his family.

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  The guy is a "Homie" in "The Valley" who now has brought home his "Trophy Bitch." Sorry for the coarse language but that is all the girl means to him. Boys in the Barrio are big trouble. She, the girl, is in danger.
  
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  Helpless and Very Sad Grandmother

  by Brenda Cook in

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  i am the grandmother of the runaway 18year old girl who is now living with her 22 year old idiot.

  this person has totally brainwashed my granddaughter and is continuing to separate her from our family.

  i feel so helpless that there is nothing we can do to make her see this - no money, no identity, and a servant to him and his family.

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  The girl may be 18 years of age but she certainly isn't an Adult. She has been deceptively lured into a Cult of One by a most dishonorable young man of 22 years and taken into captivity with his most dishonorable family. She is in danger.
  
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  After leaving the JWs - Has anyone stayed with Christianity?

  by rulehayl in

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  2. experiences

  i recently made the decision to stop studying with my study conductor, due to a situation i found myself in that led to a high possibility of my unbaptized publisher "rights" being taken away from me.

  i have since told my study conductor i have joined a new church (to which she dropped me like a hot rock, of course).... last time i posted on here, i was progressing nicely towards baptism, and was well into it.anyhoo, i like my new church, very hillsong-esqe.

  so just wondering if anyone else has stayed the course of christianity after leaving the jws, and if so - where did you go?

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  The range of responses is nothing short of amazing! What is perhaps most puzzling is that quite a number indicate that they've become anti-Christian or anti-Bible.

  What drew me to the witnesses as a teenager was their apparent zeal for studying The Word and proclaiming The Gospel. Luckily within two years I realized that the appearance was sham and was able to make my escape through the Navy.

  I've always been a believer and find the evidence for our Creator in the Creation to be exceedingly great. My research over the years has verified that few have much of what is True and the vast majority has little that is True. None of the churches have the whole Truth and too many are quite corrupted. Consequently, I've not been drawn to any churches, but instead have found study and teaching groups which do not require membership and which do not attempt to exert any controls or place pressure upon any who desire to participate. Their comprehension of The Word and Prophecy has been incredibly stimulating and comforting. We are truly near the end of this age and events which are soon to take place in the Middle East will confirm that the End of Babylon the Great is fast approaching. That is Really Good News!